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	<title>Comments on: Zudacomics v. Tokyopop: Round 3!</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on feature film, new media, and living in the digital wild west.</description>
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		<title>By: Please stop e-mailing me about DJ Coffman and &#8220;Heroes by Night&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Please stop e-mailing me about DJ Coffman and &#8220;Heroes by Night&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] popular trio of posts about the TokyoPop pilot (the inciting incident, ensuing brough-ha, and third thing where Zuda gets dragged into the morass) people are seeming to take DJ&#8217;s post from yesterday that all is not well in his ongoing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] popular trio of posts about the TokyoPop pilot (the inciting incident, ensuing brough-ha, and third thing where Zuda gets dragged into the morass) people are seeming to take DJ&#8217;s post from yesterday that all is not well in his ongoing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Defending Publishers (aka Several reasons self-publishing sucks)</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Defending Publishers (aka Several reasons self-publishing sucks)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Almost a week ago, D.J. Coffman announced that he’s putting his (really fun) Hero by Night on hiatus due to late payments by Platinum Studios. His post immediately reignited the eternal argument about the importance of creators rights in comics (see, pretty much any post from this site two weeks ago). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Almost a week ago, D.J. Coffman announced that he’s putting his (really fun) Hero by Night on hiatus due to late payments by Platinum Studios. His post immediately reignited the eternal argument about the importance of creators rights in comics (see, pretty much any post from this site two weeks ago). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyopop Manga Pilot Program Links</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokyopop Manga Pilot Program Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dual Nature of Tokyopop  &#8220;Manga Pilot Agreement&#8221; Tokyopop&#8217;s Manga Pilot Pact Zudacomics v. Tokyopop: Round 3! Tokyopop Manga Pilots Backlash Tokyopop May or May Not Possibly Eat Babies TOKYOPOP Pilot Program [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dual Nature of Tokyopop  &#8220;Manga Pilot Agreement&#8221; Tokyopop&#8217;s Manga Pilot Pact Zudacomics v. Tokyopop: Round 3! Tokyopop Manga Pilots Backlash Tokyopop May or May Not Possibly Eat Babies TOKYOPOP Pilot Program [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maus, 

I get what you're saying, (I'm comparing the contract for the Zuda "winner" with the TokyoPop "applicant") except that in order to submit to zudacomics you have to agree up front that you *will* sign that rights agreement "as is" if you win. So both are essentially the submission agreement collectively - one part may not come into play for everyone, but will come into play in the important cases we're trying to look out for. 

To me, the most important distinction is that with TokyoPop Pilot, you are not "pre-approving" a follow-up agreement. If your pilot is amazingly successful, you can use that as leverage to negotiate a much better ongoing contract with TokyoPop (or even take the work to another publisher if you can't come to terms). If your Zuda entry is amazingly successful, you've already signed away all the rights to it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maus, </p>
<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying, (I&#8217;m comparing the contract for the Zuda &#8220;winner&#8221; with the TokyoPop &#8220;applicant&#8221;) except that in order to submit to zudacomics you have to agree up front that you *will* sign that rights agreement &#8220;as is&#8221; if you win. So both are essentially the submission agreement collectively - one part may not come into play for everyone, but will come into play in the important cases we&#8217;re trying to look out for. </p>
<p>To me, the most important distinction is that with TokyoPop Pilot, you are not &#8220;pre-approving&#8221; a follow-up agreement. If your pilot is amazingly successful, you can use that as leverage to negotiate a much better ongoing contract with TokyoPop (or even take the work to another publisher if you can&#8217;t come to terms). If your Zuda entry is amazingly successful, you&#8217;ve already signed away all the rights to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maus</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Maus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that you might be incorrect regarding the Zuda contract. Their contract only applies to people they are actually publishing on the site regularly. If you are comparing the TP pilot program to Zuda's competition anyone that does not win Zuda walks away with ALL their rights. Even if you do win you can refuse and walk away with all your rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you might be incorrect regarding the Zuda contract. Their contract only applies to people they are actually publishing on the site regularly. If you are comparing the TP pilot program to Zuda&#8217;s competition anyone that does not win Zuda walks away with ALL their rights. Even if you do win you can refuse and walk away with all your rights.</p>
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		<title>By: More Tokyopop Contract Discussion &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>More Tokyopop Contract Discussion &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brad Fox compares the Tokyopop and Zuda contracts (with a cute graphic of the two logos). He concludes that the Tokyopop one is preferable because it allows you to walk away with your rights if you want to after the contract is over. By his reading, Zuda, on the other hand, takes &#8220;*all* adaptation rights &#8230; Print. Merch. Movies. Television. Spin-offs. The whole ball of yarn.&#8221; Brad also thought the Manga Pilot contract was pretty good, especially for a creator using it to break in and then walk away. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brad Fox compares the Tokyopop and Zuda contracts (with a cute graphic of the two logos). He concludes that the Tokyopop one is preferable because it allows you to walk away with your rights if you want to after the contract is over. By his reading, Zuda, on the other hand, takes &#8220;*all* adaptation rights &#8230; Print. Merch. Movies. Television. Spin-offs. The whole ball of yarn.&#8221; Brad also thought the Manga Pilot contract was pretty good, especially for a creator using it to break in and then walk away. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tokyopop: The two-minute hate is over</title>
		<link>http://www.bradfox.com/blog/2008/05/zudacomics-v-tokyopop-round-3/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tokyopop: The two-minute hate is over</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fox answers my question from a previous post and does a quick comparison of Tokyopop and Zuda. His answer may surprise you: It’s way to late to do a point by point [...]</description>
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